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jyzza
07-02-2003, 11:23 AM
This info was Revised and posted by LAWNSAVER..

This thread is for newbies and vets looking for cycles for specific goals. I have revised this as the Iron Game is constantly evolvoing and we need to keep up.

Now before I get started, I have to emphisize that your diet, training, and rest is the key to achieving your goals. All cycles can be turned into a bulking cycle or cutting depending on your food consumption.

*Clomid therapy: 36 pills. 300mg day 1, 100mg next 10, 50mg final 10.
**HCG therapy is instituted for the prevention of testicular atrophy. The old practice was effective, but I feel prevention is more productive than trying to revert the problem late in the cycle.

Solid first cycle

Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ

OR

Week 1 to 10: 4-500mg of test
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

Bulking Cycle # 1

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 6: 30mg of D-bol ED
Week 1 to 10: 600mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 750mg of Test
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

Bulking Cycle # 2

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 5: 50mg of Anadrol ED
Week 1 to 6: 750mg of Test
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of Deca
Week 7 to 12: 75mg of Fina ED
Week 7 to 12: 100mg of Prop ED
Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winny ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

Cutting Cycle # 1

Week 1 to 8: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop ED
Week 1 to 8: 75mg of Fina ED
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of winny ED
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron ED
Week 9 to 12: Clomid therapy*

Cutting Cycle # 2

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of Arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 8: 40mg of Oxandralone ED
Week 4 to 12: 50mg of Prop ED
Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winny ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

Lean Mass Cycle

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of Arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 12: 2ius of GH 5 on 2 off
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of Test
Week 1 to 12: 400mg of EQ
Week 7 to 12: 40mg of Oxanadralone
Week 14 to 16: Clomid Therapy*

Basic bridge

Week 1 to 8: 30mg of Oxandralone ED
Week 1 to 8: 10 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine Ed

Experienced Bridge

Week 1 to 8: 10ius of Insulin post workout
Week 1 to 8: 10 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine Ed
Week 1 to 8: 100grams of Dextrose 10 minutes after slin shot
Week 1 to 8: 150grams( 3 shakes) of WPI during active time of slin.

There are many different combination that we can all use in the Iron Game. I have only used a few. These are basic cycles that will work well for many users. I have only included Deca in one cycle as I feel its negative effects on a HPTA are esaily avoided with the use of EQ. Some will say Fina will do the same thing, but because its ester works much faster, I believe it is not as suppressive as Deca.

Remember Diet is the key to all cycles. If you dont eat enough, you wont bulk, if you eat to much, you wont cut.

Diet is the key to success in the Iron Game!!


Guys, good luck and be safe!

jyzza
07-02-2003, 11:27 AM
First cycle should be always only 1 compound and most of the time it will be Testosterone since Test is used as a base for most of cycles....
User needs to learn how his body reacts to this substance before stacking other substances w/ it...

Easto
07-02-2003, 11:37 AM
Effective First Cycle

Weeks 1-10
400mg Test Enan or Test Cyp

Week 12 (Day 1)
300mg Clomid
(Day 2 - 11)
100mg Clomid
(Day 12 - 21)
50mg Clomid


With Proper Diet, Training, and Rest you can easily gain 15-20 pounds on this cycle!!!

bulldog
07-27-2003, 10:36 PM
just curious why nobody seems to suggest test prop for the first cycle or as a base in other cycles. why are test cyp and test enan always mentioned before prop?

Easto
07-27-2003, 10:47 PM
Because with Enan or Cyp, you only have to inject twice a week. Actually, you can probably get away with injecting once a week.

Prop requires ED or EOD injections. That gets pretty tough for someone who is poking themselves for the first time.

rado
08-03-2003, 11:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Easto+Jul 27 2003, 10:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Easto @ Jul 27 2003, 10:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Because with Enan or Cyp, you only have to inject twice a week. Actually, you can probably get away with injecting once a week.

Prop requires ED or EOD injections. That gets pretty tough for someone who is poking themselves for the first time. [/b][/quote]
agreed

FContact
11-19-2003, 08:41 PM
The bulking cycle has fina and deca being run together. I don't believe they should be run together for it will increase the chances of acuiring progesterone induced gyno, and an even more severe shutdown of ones HPTA than if only one of the two is chosen, but because the fina is being run for a short time I don't think things could get as bad, but its still risky.

LuckyGuy
01-12-2004, 07:22 PM
Bulking cycle number 2 is exactly what im doing..but im trading out the deca with eq

rado
01-19-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by jyzza


Solid first cycle

Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ




I never did agree on this one here. Everything else was great.

liftsiron
01-20-2004, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by FContact
The bulking cycle has fina and deca being run together. I don't believe they should be run together for it will increase the chances of acuiring progesterone induced gyno, and an even more severe shutdown of ones HPTA than if only one of the two is chosen, but because the fina is being run for a short time I don't think things could get as bad, but its still risky.


The winny may off set some of the sides, but personally I'm in agreement with you and would run eq as opposed to deca with fina. Good thread.

Deacon
02-27-2005, 10:52 AM
good post overall

rado
05-22-2005, 10:31 PM
Great posts with some awesome cycles. Also covers pct...!

Fluffy
02-16-2006, 03:04 PM
*BUMP*

I see Proviron is stacked with Test Prop. in CC #1 -- why?

IncredibleBulk
05-25-2006, 02:46 AM
First cycle should be always only 1 compound and most of the time it will be Testosterone since Test is used as a base for most of cycles....
User needs to learn how his body reacts to this substance before stacking other substances w/ it...


I am new to this and was just wondering if it would be a good option to replace the Test with deca-durabolin and if the same PCT could be followed.

DADAWG
05-27-2006, 10:43 AM
I am new to this and was just wondering if it would be a good option to replace the Test with deca-durabolin and if the same PCT could be followed.
deca shuts you down much harder than test , deca can cause problems with the sex life especially if taken without test . test is best for a 1st cycle .

CO-B16
05-27-2006, 07:35 PM
word up^^^^^^^^^^^^^:D

lifter77
07-18-2006, 11:13 PM
First cycle should be always only 1 compound and most of the time it will be Testosterone since Test is used as a base for most of cycles....
User needs to learn how his body reacts to this substance before stacking other substances w/ it...

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DADAWG
07-21-2006, 10:34 AM
dont ask that on a open board , you are just asking for some scammer to contact you . thats your 1st post here bro hang around , post , learn and then maybe you will gain someones trust .

dick_boss
07-25-2006, 08:02 AM
guys, help me...im a newbie with this stuffs...im using 1x susta250mg,2 x deca250mg,4 x stano50mg every week...is it ok? or is it lacking? im confused if what to use, my trainer just sugest me this steroids...and i dnt knw what should i take to counter the posible side effects of this... tnxxx ... im from philippines...tnx

psimonkey
04-26-2007, 04:41 AM
Never really seen bridgeing as anything more than reduced dose of AAS.
My current "bridgeing" cycle-
ALCAR/ALA
Beta-Alanine
Creatine
Cissus quad conc ex
Piracetam
Selegiline
ZMA

psimonkey
04-26-2007, 06:11 AM
Y'know, thinking about it in the future, I may include Hgh and/or IGF aswell but, as of yet, I haven't the experience or enough understanding of those compounds

White Knight 96
04-26-2007, 10:59 AM
i will never bridge anything i either want to be on or off, even taking a low dosage of anything still shuts down the body,

I think hgh or igf would be a good bridge

DADAWG
04-26-2007, 01:26 PM
i will never bridge anything i either want to be on or off, even taking a low dosage of anything still shuts down the body,

I think hgh or igf would be a good bridge
the one exception to that is us old farts on hrt .

White Knight 96
04-27-2007, 11:37 AM
the one exception to that is us old farts on hrt .


lol true

2BIGFRED
05-11-2007, 08:23 PM
Basic first cycle is Test 500mg week

2BIGFRED
05-11-2007, 08:26 PM
guys, help me...im a newbie with this stuffs...im using 1x susta250mg,2 x deca250mg,4 x stano50mg every week...is it ok? or is it lacking? im confused if what to use, my trainer just sugest me this steroids...and i dnt knw what should i take to counter the posible side effects of this... tnxxx ... im from philippines...tnx
Well you should know what your using before you use it bro.I dont like the fact he has your deca higher then your test either.

kiko25
06-11-2007, 03:21 PM
I would like to know how much of estrombol (for veterinary) can a human consume a week?

DRveejay11
06-13-2007, 04:33 PM
Kiko : please start a new thread if you would like to ask something OTHER than the objective of this thread.

Thank you ;)

WEIGHTLIFTER
06-26-2007, 09:08 PM
I HEARD THAT INSULIN IS HARSH STUFF AND SHOULDNT BE TAKEN BECAUSE IT CAN CAUSE SOME MAJOR DAMAGE TO YOUR BODY. I WOULD LOVE TO POST Y NEXT PROPOSED CYCLE. WHERE EXACTLY WOULD I DO THAT.:flipoffha

animal
04-21-2008, 06:58 PM
just wonderin if any1 knows the best way t do decca,sus and clomid? any help will be apreshiated

animal
04-21-2008, 07:14 PM
what wud b the best way 2 do decca,sus n clomid?